The 46brooklyn Podcast
The search for truth in drug pricing. Hosted by PharmD and president of 46brooklyn Research, Ben Link.
The search for truth in drug pricing. Hosted by PharmD and president of 46brooklyn Research, Ben Link.
At 46brooklyn, we believe the complexity of how our drugs are priced is creating serious consequences for payers, patients, and providers across this country. Our purpose is to unlock the value buried in our country’s vast but disparate drug pricing databases to bring awareness to the nature and design of this complexity. While we started with a blog, we have begun this Podcast in an attempt to reach a broader audience. Our hope is that better awareness and education will help improve the accountability of our supply chain and, in time, lead to the much-needed simplification of how drugs are priced.
Episodes
Jun 16, 2023
Jun 16, 2023
26 min
So now that drug pricing one on one is well and truly behind us, what did we say we're going to do next? Well, we said in our last episode that we wanted to talk more about what drug reference prices might tell us about the price of drugs today. What a crazy sentence that is. So to start back up, that's what we'll do. We'll talk about the drug pricing, news and notes at the start of 2023.
Jun 16, 2023
Re-cap of Drug Pricing 101 - Episode 11
Jun 16, 2023
Jun 16, 2023
18 min
It has been a minute since we last had an episode of our Podcast, so it is probably appropriate to start with some reminders. Last year, we launched the Podcast and dove into some, but not all, of the drug reference prices available in the U.S.. We talked about the use of those reference prices within our work at 46brooklyn and ultimately got around to briefly discussing how drug benefits get financed in the commercial space. We called our first series, Drug Pricing 101 with the idea that we needed to introduce the core concepts of the U.S. drug supply chain to hopefully foster a better understanding of the data available at 46brooklyn.com and our drug pricing system as a whole.
Jul 18, 2022
Jul 18, 2022
23 min
Based upon what we have learned thus far about U.S. drug pricing, it makes sense at this point to take a step back and look at how most of us actually obtain medications. In this episode we explore how employer sponsored healthcare (i.e., prescription drug insurance from the company we work for) is obtained in the first place.
Jul 4, 2022
Jul 4, 2022
31 min
The search for truth in drug pricing is complicated by a lack of transparency. Fortunately for us, at least one drug company was committed to tell us what a drug actually costs to produce. Using the public information provided by the Mark Cuban Cost Plus Drug Company, we can follow albendazole’s price from the factory all the way to the health plan in the retail pharmacy channel.
Jun 13, 2022
Jun 13, 2022
23 min
Now that we have a better understanding of drug pricing benchmarks thanks to our Drug Pricing 101 series, we review how 46brooklyn got its start using public Medicaid data to understand how what was charged for a drug doesn’t always tell you what the provider was paid for the drug.
Apr 28, 2022
Apr 28, 2022
41 min
You asked, we answered! On this episode, Ben is joined by some of the other 46brooklyn volunteers who help make the podcast possible and we collectively answer questions we’ve received regarding drug prices and the U.S. drug supply chain.
Mar 11, 2022
Drug Pricing 101 - Episode 6
Mar 11, 2022
Mar 11, 2022
19 min
Many who have followed U.S. drug pricing efforts over the years are certainly familiar with a PBM’s MAC, or maximum allowable cost, list. This episode explores MAC pricing with a focus on how a failure to agree on what a drug’s price is – as evident by the numerous drug prices that potentially exist – has created a market for MAC prices to exist.
Mar 11, 2022
Drug Pricing 101 - Episode 5
Mar 11, 2022
Mar 11, 2022
22 min
This episode of the podcast explores a pharmacy’s cash, or usual and customary price. We rely upon an understanding of the prior discussed pricing benchmarks to contextualize why cash prices are so high at nearly all U.S. pharmacies.
Mar 11, 2022
Drug Pricing 101 - Episode 4
Mar 11, 2022
Mar 11, 2022
17 min
On this episode of the Podcast, we explore National Average Drug Acquisition Cost (NADAC). An understanding of NADAC was critical into early efforts to explore drug channel pricing distortions, such as spread pricing in Ohio Medicaid in 2017-18.
Mar 10, 2022
Drug Pricing 101 - Episode 3
Mar 10, 2022
Mar 10, 2022
15 min
This episode of the podcast explores the most distorted of all U.S. drug prices – Average Wholesale Price (AWP). As the pricing benchmark principally relied upon in contracts between drug supply chain participants, this pricing benchmark is arguably the most important to the U.S. healthcare system.





